I’ve been reading and am interested in the proposed legislation in New York that would give Nannies a Worker’s Bill of Rights both because I write about workplace conditions here and because I employ a Nanny. While I do not live in New York so the legislation would not affect me, I certainly have an opinion. But honestly we’ve heard from the bloggers, the journalists, and the moms on the issue but we have not heard much from those that it is proposed to help….the Nanny community.
So I asked my Nanny what she thought, which seemed a sensible thing to do.
Here are her details:
Juliette
30
Born & raised in the US
Professional Nanny – meaning this is what she does & wants to do for a living. Her mother & sister are also professional nannies
Some college education but college was not for her
Bright and capable
Has been in our employ 4 1/2 years
Me: What do you think of the proposal that Nannies who work more than an 8 hour day get paid overtime – meaning time & a half?
Juliette: (after thinking about it) I think it should be between the employer & employee to decide that. For instance I worked for 1 family that asked if I minded working 50 hours/week. I was happy to, and liked the extra pay. If they had had to pay me time and half I’m not sure they would have offered me the extra work.
Juliette: Also – what about how I used to work for you 4 days a week for 10 hours a day. I really liked that schedule, it gave me Fridays off and I got to sleep in. Would you have to pay me overtime even if I only worked 40 hours?
Me: It appears that way.
Juliette: That stinks for me (pause) and for you.
Juliette: And what about weeks you go away? If I was scheduled for 50 hours and you went away, would you still have to pay me overtime even though I didn’t really work that week? ==== (My family travels a lot!)
Me: I don’t know.
Me: Also the law would give Nannies paid vacation & sick time.
Juliette: I already get that.
Me: It would also mandate that I give you two weeks’ notice before firing you.
Juliette: Well, you just gave me 3 months’ notice that you could only keep me on part-time and then helped me find another family to fill in the gap. (Long, long pause) So I don’t think I really care about this law.
Me: Yeah.
There are a million different scenarios for how nannies work and are paid in this country. And I completely understand that workers now as in the past sometimes need protection. But I fear the ones who need it will not get it with this law. Juliette is an intelligent, strong-willed worker who interviewed us 4 1/2 years ago as rigorously as we interviewed her. She does not need this law. If she felt she was being taken advantage first she would speak up for herself and if that didn’t work she would simply find another job. And I fear those that do need this law are mostly not in this country legally and will never complain.
I wish those who employ anyone – domestic workers, line workers, laborers, knowledge workers – would just treat others as they would like to be treated as an employee:
- Give a specific job description including what is expected during work hours and stick to it or amend it.
- Pay a fair wage.
- Vacation and sick time are part of a healthy workforce and should be paid.
- Reward good behavior.
- Punish bad behavior.
- Communicate early and often if problems/concerns arise.
- Understand those you employ do have lives outside of work and be flexible when needed.
- Do not take advantage of any worker.
- Employee US citizens or those with green cards eligible to work in this country.
- Give appropriate and honest notice of changes to work status – like reduced hours, lay offs, etc.
Any questions?